• Horsey@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    To be fair, I’m waiting on the R2 as well, but I’m strapping in for first generation fit and finish issues galore. Rivian hasn’t surpassed Tesla in software or aftermarket flexibility.

    Not to mention, we probably won’t be able to take delivery until late this year despite paying for a reservation from this past March.

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      8 days ago

      Surpass Tesla in software?

      Most of us want less software not more

      That’s why everyone is so hyped about Slate. Less of this garbage is a paid feature these days.

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        7 days ago

        That’s why everyone is so hyped about Slate.

        No one is hyped about Slate. Europe has better EVs for less already.

        file Slate along with:

        Canoo

        Bollinger

        Aptera

        Nikola

        Telo

        and another dozen bullshit US EV companies.

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        8 days ago

        The slate software is in no way going to be the industry standard. Car manufacturers are all looking to create parasitic software for their cars.

        Slate is DOA based solely on how terrible the range will be.

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          8 days ago

          Slate is a good niche, its range is fine for the purpose its supposed to fill

          Imagine a fleet of them for a lawncare business paired with a 30-42" standup electric mower rig

          Cost of operations would be dittly squat, could be further buffered with solar and replacememt parts dirt cheap. Roi would be extremely quick and then it’d be pure profits

          People are already doing that with used Teslas pulling trailers (yeah its funny to see, but the people doing it have shown their numbers and its pretty nuts)

          Whats not fine about the Slate is no awd version. On an EV it’s a minimal endeavor to make that work so there’s really no excuse

          Having experienced awd I will never personally own another vehicle without it if I have a choice. Especially a truck. My driving conditions are way too harsh to not have it

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            7 days ago

            Whats not fine about the Slate is no awd version. On an EV it’s a minimal endeavor to make that work so there’s really no excuse

            AWD is only a thing in stupid vehicle designs where they put all the weight up front, and the drive wheels at the back.

            An EV truck has proper weight distribution, AWD would offer no advantage, just add weight and cost more.

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            8 days ago

            The long range model’s EPA range is 240mi, so 120mi while towing, more like 100mi considering that you absolutely cannot run an EV 100 to 0, and that’s best case scenario. That maximum 100mi is not enough for a day of landscaping.

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              8 days ago

              Not talking about towing

              Talking about a bedspace only, 1-2 man crew setup

              A Bobcat ZS4000 Stand-On Mower 48″ is a 64" long mower for example, so it should juuuust fit in there, but to be safe I mentioned smaller, though personally if I were to do something like this I’d want a greenworks electric, costs half as much as the truck

              For sure, you’d see a range drop, but it shouldn’t be anywhere near as severe as pulling a trailer

              A small standon, a ramp to get it on and off the truck, a rack with a trimmer, edger, hedger, blower, pruner, mini chainsaw, maybe a delta powerbank or gas generator to recharge the tools as you drive about or they’re in standby

              I’d expect a drop in range about 25-30% with that but not as severe as a pull behind trailer

              ~130-150 miles of range is doable if you plan the route and cluster clients, which any Semi-competent business owner who could afford a fleet of these would be capable of doing or paying someone to manage the routes