Hold the line
Our next goal for them: 100.000 evs unsold.
And then Trump closes the Straight of Hormuz and ev sales increase. The question is whether Tesla gets a boost.
Luckily there are a lot of nice EVs from better brands!
The Sieg Heiling Space Karen genius could not have foreseen this. Is that right?
Remember when he told his advertisers to fuck off, and then two weeks later sued them because they fucked off? That’s the depth of this man’s genius!!!
And he lost the case obviously…
You got to be a special kind of asshole if you’re buying a Tesla these days.
Their Q1 sales were actually up over last year. It’s insane.
The same kind of pieces of shit that still use Twitter.
They significantly dropped the prices at the dealerships. A model 3 is now like 36k compared to 50+ last year., but I’d rather walk on glass. We bought a Ford Maverick instead.
Not only that, you sort of have to hate having money.
With the cyber trucks having shit glued on them all over the place the company just seems laughable.
If I’m putting down (potentially) luxury car money I better damned well have a luxury car.
Or an Indian. They fucking love Tesla
I’m in the GTA. Asians here. They fucking love Tesla’s.
Random question: GTA? Greater Toronto Area?
Yes
Yeah it’s not just Indians:
In 2025:
According to the analysis, Tesla achieved loyalty rates of 63.6% among Asian households and 61.9% among Hispanic households. These figures exceeded national averages.
Favorability / loyalty have dropped across all groups over the past several years.
Reading Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “scenes of intimacy” was enough to put me off Tesla. The build quality being garbage and Musk also being a garbage human being make the company just a complete waste of space.
It’s funny how that wasn’t really a problem until they found that bond underwater car in a garage recorded by a tesla and it belonged to nazi musk.
Elon couldn’t pay me to buy a Tesla. I like EVs. It’s not about the technology. It’s entirely about Elon. I’d rather buy Japanese or South Korean, thank you.
I’d rather buy a Chinese one, but mr Biden made that impossible.
mr Biden made that impossible.
Wait, is he still President with a majority in the House of Reps and Senate since 2025?
Thanks, Obama!
Well let’s not be too hasty here…
I really despise most everything about him but if Elon were to actually pay me and give me a free car I’d very likely take it. I mean I have principles but I’m not an idiot.
Yeah, you are. The fucking death traps with doors that won’t open in a crash and unless you know where the secret escape hatch is you are cremated.
Tesla just fucking lost a lawsuit about this.
Get that free asbestos sweater while you’re at it.
I thought that was just the Cybertruck, which yes, I wouldn’t drive even if someone gave me one. I’d flip it and buy something else.
I think both the sedan and roadster are okay electric cars, and I think they have enough range I could use them to reduce the amount of gas I burn in my Volt for longer trips.
But, I haven’t really been paying attention to Tesla recently, and Elmu has certainly been looking horrible to me.
The problem is the door locks are electric, so if the car loses low voltage power, the buttons to open the doors no longer work. Worse yet, the Model 3 only has emergency physical latches in the front seats, so good luck in the back, kids.
Destroys them all because unprofitable to sell, whines about major loss, demands government bailout.
Isn’t that like 50k x 20k$ (rough costs estimate) = 1B$ of slowly realizing losses?
Its not very much, Chrysler had over a million vehicles in stock 18 months ago.
Noe I am curious how much quicker batteries degrade being idle than ICE engines.
Thats after they got spacex to buy a large number of them.
From what Elon says to shareholders, Tesla is going to pivot to becoming a humanoid robot production company anyway, the cars are just a sideline. They axed two models when they announced that.
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Does anyone have a good basic tip on how to buy one at a discount?
Buy used, they devalue like rocks
I wouldn’t call them super cheap though they depreciate a lot from the new prices. Lots of quality ICE cars of similar age at lower prices, i.e. they are still expensive cars.
You can get fantastically good deals on used Fiskers. The company is bankrupt but there’s a lively community of owners and getting stuff like repair parts isn’t hard. I’m slightly tempted but only slightly. What I really want is an EV conversion for an old cargo van, so it would have very few computers inside.
You can get fantastically good deals on used Fiskers.
you are a endless pool of bad advice.
What about the idea of the battery degrading or getting worn out or whatever? I’ve never owned one and I have sort of zero concept of that. I think they’re warranty covers through 150k or something like that?
Battery is not the problem, it’s the flimsy gadgetry in the rest of the car, and the motors.
I thought Tesla was going to start building robots, instead of cars.
/somewhat sarcastically
This is my stupid fucking friend who can’t get off Elons nuts at all. It’s fucking sad. He literally bought a model Y the other day despite me telling him Rivian is about to release a competitor because he thinks he can add it to the robo taxi fleet in a year or two. God I love him and am sick of this shit.
To be fair, I’m waiting on the R2 as well, but I’m strapping in for first generation fit and finish issues galore. Rivian hasn’t surpassed Tesla in software or aftermarket flexibility.
Not to mention, we probably won’t be able to take delivery until late this year despite paying for a reservation from this past March.
Surpass Tesla in software?
Most of us want less software not more
That’s why everyone is so hyped about Slate. Less of this garbage is a paid feature these days.
That’s why everyone is so hyped about Slate.
No one is hyped about Slate. Europe has better EVs for less already.
file Slate along with:
Canoo
Bollinger
Aptera
Nikola
Telo
and another dozen bullshit US EV companies.
The slate software is in no way going to be the industry standard. Car manufacturers are all looking to create parasitic software for their cars.
Slate is DOA based solely on how terrible the range will be.
Slate is a good niche, its range is fine for the purpose its supposed to fill
Imagine a fleet of them for a lawncare business paired with a 30-42" standup electric mower rig
Cost of operations would be dittly squat, could be further buffered with solar and replacememt parts dirt cheap. Roi would be extremely quick and then it’d be pure profits
People are already doing that with used Teslas pulling trailers (yeah its funny to see, but the people doing it have shown their numbers and its pretty nuts)
Whats not fine about the Slate is no awd version. On an EV it’s a minimal endeavor to make that work so there’s really no excuse
Having experienced awd I will never personally own another vehicle without it if I have a choice. Especially a truck. My driving conditions are way too harsh to not have it
Whats not fine about the Slate is no awd version. On an EV it’s a minimal endeavor to make that work so there’s really no excuse
AWD is only a thing in stupid vehicle designs where they put all the weight up front, and the drive wheels at the back.
An EV truck has proper weight distribution, AWD would offer no advantage, just add weight and cost more.
The long range model’s EPA range is 240mi, so 120mi while towing, more like 100mi considering that you absolutely cannot run an EV 100 to 0, and that’s best case scenario. That maximum 100mi is not enough for a day of landscaping.
Not talking about towing
Talking about a bedspace only, 1-2 man crew setup
A Bobcat ZS4000 Stand-On Mower 48″ is a 64" long mower for example, so it should juuuust fit in there, but to be safe I mentioned smaller, though personally if I were to do something like this I’d want a greenworks electric, costs half as much as the truck
For sure, you’d see a range drop, but it shouldn’t be anywhere near as severe as pulling a trailer
A small standon, a ramp to get it on and off the truck, a rack with a trimmer, edger, hedger, blower, pruner, mini chainsaw, maybe a delta powerbank or gas generator to recharge the tools as you drive about or they’re in standby
I’d expect a drop in range about 25-30% with that but not as severe as a pull behind trailer
~130-150 miles of range is doable if you plan the route and cluster clients, which any Semi-competent business owner who could afford a fleet of these would be capable of doing or paying someone to manage the routes
To be fair, we will have full self driving by the end of the year, according to Elon every single year for the last decade.
Now we will have robots by the end of the year.
The whole industry can burn, but especially Tesla
Wait, wat? I get Tesla but whole industry?
The average price of a new car is 50k.
The US car industry makes almost no actual cars since sedans and wagons don’t make much money per vehicle.
The whole fucking industry deserves to go out of business, and the laws that incentivized building trucks needs to go with it.
And here I am, still thinking anything but sedans are ugly af. SUVs are the most hideous vehicle I’ve ever seen. Ugly and absolutely the worst possible kind of shape.
Well 2nd worst. Trucks are worse since they tend to be taller. Plus I’ve never met a decent person who owns one of those tall ones. They’re all just chick size competitions, smallest dick finally wins in their eyes. If you absolutely have to have a truck, get one of those Japanese types that are almost as small as a real car that actually has a bed on it.
Whoever started the trend of trucks getting bigger, taller, and fatter all while the bed is smaller than my tiny cars backseat should actually be executed. How many people are they responsible for killing?
Even sedans have gotten supersized just look a new Accord or Camry vs the older versions. The 3 series is bigger than a e39 5 series the A6 is bigger than the older A8’s.
I own a stick shift Golf Alltrack and I really don’t know what I’d replace it with if it was wrecked, there’s nothing out there at a price I’d be willing to pay that I like.
My last car was a Camry, and it was huge compared to what I remember them as (my mom has an 80s one when I was a kid). I’ve downsized to a Corolla (after I destroyed the Camry whoopsie) now tho.
And I have no idea what those alphabet/number soup cars even are. If they can’t get a real name thae they can go extinct. I’m not learning what an e45 is, or a ZQ73 is.
But yeah they have gotten more unwieldy, and that shit needs to stop.
But what I meant to say got lost in my other point, which was my opinion that even given the most safe shape and sizes possible, I think everything but sedans are ugly, just aesthetically speaking. I understand the practical reasons, but they’re all ugly.
SUVs are not practical. Hatchbacks or wagon sedans are practical.
SUVs are just big to give the impression of value and to sell to an increasingly obese demographic.
That’s a very US-centric view of car industry
I have a European car rant too, I did live in Germany for 20 years
I’m interested
Why the fuck is the are cars like the golf, 206 etc the size of a Passat from 20ish years ago.
Why is BMW building a fat front wheel drive called the 2 series.
Why can’t VAG produce anything quality it doesn’t matter if it’s a Skoda or an Audi they’ve all tuned into low quality shit.
Why are reasonable midsized cars in Europe now crossover SUV’s?
Basically it boils down to everything has gotten big, fat, and overpriced have you even seen a Polo?
Fuck the entire German car industry they’ve betrayed what made people like them to chase trends and extra profits
And finally fuck me because I own two VW’s and Two BMW’s
I own a Honda Fit. It’s small, is reasonably petrol efficient, has actual dials and physical knobs for an interface, and needs just basic maintenance to run reliably.
Of course they’ve been discontinued in Canada.
Anecdote:
I was recently browsing an auto listing app for a used EV as I’m thinking about switching to an EV from my ICE hatchback, and the market near me is absolutely flooded with Teslas, primary model 3s. And it’s not just “old” ones either. Tons of 2020-2024 models as well.
Model 3s are some of the best vehicles ever made - extremely safe and powerful with great handling. Also, extremely low cost long term. Buying used is totally fine. Also there’s literally nothing we can do as consumers to affect Elon. Just treat the company as separate from him.
Model 3s are some of the best vehicles ever made
https://www.motor1.com/news/781164/tesla-used-car-reliability-rankings/
- extremely safe and powerful with great handling.
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There are a lot of really shitty people who have done very good things for science, technology, and humanity throughout history. Elon Musk is inarguably a really shitty person, but he has also been at the center of multiple efforts that materially accelerated technology and improved human capability.
Tesla was one of the biggest forces in dragging EVs out of the fringe and into the mainstream. The IEA projected around 17 million EV sales in 2024, more than one-fifth of all new cars sold worldwide, and the EPA notes that EVs typically have a smaller carbon footprint than gasoline cars even after accounting for battery manufacturing and charging electricity. (IEA)
Battery technology and grid-level storage matter far beyond cars. The IEA notes that grid-scale battery storage has scaled rapidly in recent years and is expected to account for most storage growth worldwide, which is a major part of making grids more stable and better able to absorb renewable power. (IEA)
On self-driving, the honest version is not “he solved autonomy,” because fully self-driving consumer cars are still not here. IIHS says Level 4 and 5 vehicles are not available to consumers for purchase, but Tesla has absolutely helped force driver-assistance and autonomy into the center of the industry and push deployment at huge real-world scale; Tesla says its supervised FSD system is trained on data from a fleet of over six million vehicles. (IIHS)
Then there is space. SpaceX made rocket reusability real at operational scale, and NASA has explicitly described reusability as a path to driving launch costs down. Lower launch costs and higher launch cadence directly expand access to space for communications, Earth observation, scientific missions, and the long-term path toward becoming a genuinely spacefaring civilization. (NASA Technical Reports Server)
Starlink also matters. The FCC authorized SpaceX’s broadband satellite system to provide broadband service, and that kind of global satellite internet has obvious real-world value for remote and underserved areas and for resilience when terrestrial infrastructure is unavailable. (Federal Communications Commission)
So no, being a shitty person does not erase the fact that the companies he drove helped accelerate EV adoption, battery storage, launch reusability, satellite internet, and the broader push toward a more electrified, connected, and space-capable civilization. You can hate the man and still admit the net technological impact is very large.
Sources:
https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2024/trends-in-electric-cars
https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths
https://www.iea.org/energy-system/electricity/grid-scale-storage
https://www.iihs.org/research-areas/advanced-driver-assistance
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20160013370/downloads/20160013370.pdf
https://nstxl.org/reducing-the-cost-of-space-travel-with-reusable-launch-vehicles/
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-authorizes-spacex-provide-broadband-satellite-services
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-approves-next-gen-satellite-constellation
The reality is they can last upwards of 500k miles with minimal maintenance, have excellent power and handling, and are extremely safe in accidents regardless of how many idiot Tesla drivers are crashing their Tesla
There are many high-mileage examples, and Tesla’s battery/drive-unit warranty is long for the segment
https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/tesla/model-3-4-door-sedan/2025
https://www.iihs.org/ratings/top-safety-picks/2025/all/tesla
https://www.tesla.com/support/vehicle-warranty
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-E95DAAD9-646E-4249-9930-B109ED7B1D91.html
https://www.tesla.com/support/ordering-pre-owned-tesla
https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-3
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-tesla-model-3-highland-first-drive-review
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-tesla-model-3-highland-standard-range-first-test-review
Model 3s are among the safer cars in their class, with strong IIHS results and Tesla’s low-center-of-gravity EV platform design.
They are objectively quick, with official 0-60 times ranging from 5.8s down to 2.9s depending on trim.
Routine maintenance is relatively light, and EPA data shows very low annual energy cost compared with many gas cars.
Buying used can be reasonable, especially when battery/warranty status is verified, and Tesla’s own pre-owned vehicles are inspected and sold with warranty coverage.
