We(Lemmy users) are adblock users and are tired of capitalism that ruined Reddit.
All of us didn’t come here to look at ads again or to entertain capitalist dreams of embedding ads everywhere.
My recommendation is clear, let’s ban watermarked comics and work towards ad free community.
At the end, music don’t have watermarks and neither do art. So why should comics have watermarks?
Linking to the source should be the primary way of attribution.
Counter proposal: ban OP from this community along with anyone else who removes artist trademarks from comics they post.
I’m going to block beep, but they should 100% be banned for being a worthless piece of shit.
Counter counter proposal: ban anyone who use this community to post ads.
hey have you considered changing your handle to ▇▇@▇▇▇▇.org, to stop watermarking your comments? cuz right now, seeing your name, i feel advertised to tbh
You can change the settings of your client to not show usernames and instead show only the name of the community the post is posted in.
Sure. But posting the artist’s name/watermark isn’t an ad, it’s their artwork.
Ban posters who modify artist’s work maliciously to remove attribution.
OP, do you have some kind of humiliation fetish or why is your take this shit?
Do you think that a painter’s signature on a painting is an ad? If I listen to music and the artist states their name, is that an ad? All of these are just a way of saying “I made this”. They aren’t ads in any meaningful sense of the word.
Bro be like “ew, an ad”:
Literally unbearable to look at with that capitalist garbage in the bottom right corner:
Do you think seeing the author’s name on the front of a book is also an ad?
Most mp3s have the artist name in the metadata or title. And, even the most rudimentary platforms show this information front and center. It is not an ad. It is a feature we desire. We want to know who made it, so that we can understand its context, its subtexts, and yes, find the artist for more of their work.
Image files typically do not make use of these mechanisms, and certainly the platforms we view them on rarely do. The general convention is to ‘sign’ or watermark it instead.
It is as simple as that. To remove the signature of a webcomic is like stripping an mp3 of all metadata and making the filename a random string. It’s fundamentally an inconvenience to everyone involved. No one wants this.
(This is not to mention that the wholesale removal of attribution and complete divorce of creator and creation serves the ultimate goals of corporations. They’ve done it with food (where does your milk come from), furniture (who made your chair), and now with art (who made this comic?)
You seem to be conflating an ad (buy JokoMolk brand milk!) With attribution (this milk was produced at x farm). Perhaps, if we better understood the orgins of things, we might make informed decisions!)
Better idea, how about a rule to ban people who intentionally remove them?
We’d get better content, and nothing of value would be lost. Least of which is AI slop to remove water marks
Watermarks protect the actual creator’s stuff from people claiming it as their own work. This is a dumb idea.
As I said, why it doesn’t exist in music and art then?
They do…?
Signatures and watermarks are in almost all works of art.
A watermark on a piece of recorded music is something that is part of the digital composition. It can be in the metadata, it could be in the waveform itself. You’d only see it through analysis of the file.
Same can, and often is, done with video. Even code for software.
A good watermark is one that isn’t obvious, so it can’t be removed or tampered with.
You made a good point… For my argument!
Music don’t contain watermarks that ruin the experience in the work itself.
It’s available in text attribution/ metadata base.
Leave the experience alone out of the attribution.
Artists have signed their work almost since the start of art. You say linking to the source should be the primary way of attribution, yet you don’t link to your source.
I am with you and also think we should visit every existing museum and remove the signature from the Artists!!
The sign inside the museum should be enough! Why did we paid for the museum in the first place if we see “Artist ads” like signatures?
Mmmm…
What I’m hearing is that you don’t want to support the creators who’s work you repost here.
I don’t agree. These types of ads are the few that I’m actually okay with. because it’s an artist trying to support themselves, not a corporate schill using AI or trying to push a big corp.
The War and Peas comics artist has a patreon. I can’t afford to support them directly but I do want them to receive support.
Why don’t you want artists to get paid for their work?
Sigh
I want ad free art.
Then go make it yourself, or use an AI to pretend you have the talent to make art, and then you can choose to not put a name on it.
Oh, can AI generate comics?
Do you have some examples of “ads” or watermarks in comics?
IMO artist signatures/names or comic titles are not ads.
I do have one. The artist who writes and draws the War and Peas comics has a patreon and (on Tumblr where I follow them) they advertise by placing a panel beneath the comic with their patreon information in it. But very often they only share that on their own social media, and I don’t think I’ve seen it on Lemmy.
But they aren’t hiding their work behind that patreon, instead they ask for donations if viewers should be so inclined.
I am fine with that type of advertisment because this is them asking people who enjoy their work to help support them.
I assumed (I may be wrong) that this is was what OP meant. But even if they mean just a signature, to me that’s even more egregious. Would OP go to a museum and remove the placards with the artists names?
Edit: Green and Blue Fox comics also does this with a link to their Instagram, and other social media where you can find their work, which again, I am fine with. I don’t understand what Op’s beef with artists getting appreciation and potential donations is.
Ah, I meant in the comics themselves. If they want to “advertise” on their page or whatever, more power to them.
This is what I see when I look at warandpeas.com — there’s the name of the comic but nothing that I would call a watermark or an advertisement.
Did the copyright holder (i.e. the artist) give you permission to redistribute their work without attribution? If not, it’s a copyright validation and illegal in most countries.
I’m not really against pirating (you would copy a car), if you are taking from the rich. But that’s not the case here.
And holding back information about the source of the comic is just evil to the readers here.
… Isn’t supporting and highlighting smaller creators rather than huge megacorps kinda a core part of the anti-capitalist movement?
Are you puppeting your bot account right now so that you can evade a ban?
Genuinely asking because this is just like. The worst take ever, but the time frame between the number of posts you post per day and the fact that there was a post recently about bots not being allowed all make me suspect everything you’ve said.
Easily one of the worst takes I’ve ever seen.
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